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Think Gene: Incense is psychoactive: Scientists identify the biology behind the ceremony

  • Nathan · 1 year ago
    LSD does not come from mushrooms. It is a derivative of LSA, a chemical found in ergot of rye, morning glory seeds, and a few other plants.
  • Managed Hosting · 1 month ago
    Frankincence and Myrh mixed together are good for piles. The Kings may have taken Mary an ancient recipe for preparation H and if any of you have ever tried to squeeze a melon out of a space the size of a lemon you may believe she may well have been very grateful lol.
  • Josh Hill · 1 year ago
    Yeah you're right. The guy who's quoted is wrong; I missed that. LSD definitely does not come from mushrooms. He must be thinking of psilocybin. Thanks for pointing that out.
  • alan · 1 year ago
    Ergot from which LSD is derived is a fungus. Saying its from a mushroom is not to far off the mark. The difference between a fungus and a mushroom is cosmetic.
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Alan- I think the doctor is definitely thinking of psylocibin. The experience of LSD and that of psylocibin, while both powerfully psychoactive, are completely different. (I think mushrooms are far more pleasant- LSD feels way too "chemicaly" and synthetic.)
  • josh · 1 year ago
    That doesn't change the fact that it's still miss stated. And @ Nathan I'm pretty sure LSD is NOT derived from LSA as LSA is a related yet different chemical that is found in Hawaiian Baby Wood Rose seeds and Morning Glory Seeds. Grain (the food source by which Ergot grows) does not contain LSA and Ergot does not produce it as a byproduct.
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Josh- I wasn't debating the fact that the doctor is incorrect. And yes, I think you're right about LSA. I'm pretty sure LSD is completely synthetic, at least any of the stuff you can buy on the street.
  • Oren · 1 year ago
    Note that Raphael Mechoulam is also the discoverer of THC.
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    Anyone know the discoverer of THC-V? that's the best one...
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    Jesus was a stoner, also. "Anointing" in oil has a psychedelic connotation.

    http://hightimes.com/news/ht_admin/139

    I'd like to see this one refuted, please, I will even accept Biblical evidence.
  • Gronk · 1 year ago
    "Perhaps Marx wasn’t too wrong when he called religion the opium of the people" -- he wasn't wrong at all, even without the literal interpretation.
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    Josh: LSD can be derived from LSA
  • Scott · 1 year ago
    No way Frankensense astually has a use. Maybe the 3rd Wise King wasn't as dumb as I thought he was.
  • Anthony · 1 year ago
    Looks like boswellic acid (from which the Incensole acetate was isolated) might also be useful against cancers.
    http://www.curehunter.com/public/keywordSummary...

    Maybe the anti-inflammatory properties are the key to solving lots of problems.
  • Bob · 1 year ago
    But then again, ergot is: a fungal disease of rye and other cereals in which black, elongated, fruiting bodies grow in the ears of the cereal.
  • stephan mikes · 1 year ago
    Well, perhaps the Wise Men were treating Mary for post partum depression! There's the frankincense, then the gold (always cheers ME up), and it seems that myrhh also has some medicinal and/or mood-altering characteristics.

    Here's a quote about it i googled:

    "Quality myrrh can be identified by its dark color and sticky texture, which indicates a large amount of the fragrant oil that produces a scent when burned. Myrrh can also be found in salves for skin irritations, perfumes, toothpaste, and other toiletries.

    "Another use of myrrh that dates from ancient times is as an additive to wine. The resin is also an ingredient in the Italian spirit Fernet Branca, created in 1845 by Maria Scala as a medicine. The drink is very popular in Argentina and San Francisco, and it is commonly mixed with cola."
  • Dusty · 1 year ago
    Interesting. Here in San Francisco they sell Salvia Divinorum as "incense" in head shops where you buy pipes & stuff. Smoked by itself that stuff give you a super intense, LSD high...for like 5 minutes. That's serious incense...
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Dusty- salvia, and many other legal psychoactives, are marketed as "incense" in order to keep people not in the "know" ignorant. That, and marketing it for human consumption requires FDA approval, another process that's not only time and money consuming, but also brings the substance up on the govt's radar, something the rest of us don't want!
  • Iamarni · 1 year ago
    Frankincence and Myrh mixed together are good for piles. The Kings may have taken Mary an ancient recipe for preparation H and if any of you have ever tried to squeeze a melon out of a space the size of a lemon you may believe she may well have been very grateful lol.
  • Joe · 1 year ago
    Ergot is a parasitic fungus that grows on rye grain, Ergot does produce LSA, which can then be processed and refined into liquid LSD
  • Alaster · 1 year ago
    Hello, excuse me for butting in, but whilst we are on the subjct of psycoactive halucinagenic sub´s has anyone experienced the extra ordinary Inca´n 15 minute trip of D.M.T (cant recall the chem name now) but this is a trip which you can adjust the strengh of at the start of the smoke and well, you are thrown straight into the most intense and seriously colourful experience, ever, but what i most fascinating, you can then be having dinner with your mum within half an hour, go back to work - anything!!!!!!!!!!! Look it up and remember, tiny, tiny BIT to begin with!
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Alaster- I've had the pleasure of experiencing 5-meo-dmt (5 methoxy-dimethyltryptamine) To call it an "intense and seriously colorful experience" is beyond understatement. I would call it a "death experience" as, while under it's influence, you (your ego, your thinking, separate self) dies and there is nothing left but pure consciousness. It is the closest thing I can imagine to actually dying.
  • Josh Hill · 1 year ago
    5-MeO-DMT is a "venom" produced by toads, and is also present in certain plants. It's very similar to DMT, which is produced by several types of plants, but is also naturally present in the human body in small quantities. It has been suggested that this is the origin of children's creativity, since naturally produced DMT levels are higher in children than adults. Both structurally and in its effects, it is similar to psilocybin, which is the active compound in psychedelic mushrooms. DMT is much shorter lasting though than psilocybin.
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Correction- psylocibin and DMT experiences are quite different. DMT, especially the 5-methoxy (5-meo) variety, is often terrifying and difficult to handle. Psylocibin is generally pleasant. While 5-meo-dmt is found in many plants and animals, like the bufo toad (NOT all toads), DMT is far more commonly found in both the toad and other plants. As far as it being responsible for children's creativity, this is just silly. Children are creative because they don't have years and years of social indoctrination and stress hammered into their psyche.
  • Josh Hill · 1 year ago
    5-MeO-DMT and DMT are very different experiences. However, I still stand by my assertion that DMT and psilocybin are very similar. Psilocybin is slow onset, while DMT sets on very quickly, which I attribute to the "terror" some people feel.

    As for the children, I suppose what I said was not what I meant; higher levels of DMT may be one of the contributing factors to children's creativity.
  • jasontimmer · 1 year ago
    Meh, I dunno, Josh. With psylocibin, I've always been able to remain largely with the conscious world and witness the "flow" while remaining in it. With 5-meo-dmt, for me at least, the conscious world is gone, as is the "flow", and I'm left with nothing but pure consciousness. Of course, everyone's experience is different. I agree that the terror is largely due to people's reaction to the immediate and overwhelming loss of control. I'm not gonna touch the creativity thing anymore. Your thoughts?
  • Rick · 1 year ago
    "What's Frankincense?"

    "It's a balm."

    "A BOMB!?"

    :-D
  • Amy · 1 year ago
    Not all antidepressants have nasty side effects during withdrawal. Paxil is known for that problem, but most are not that bad for most people.
  • Anonymous · 10 months ago
    "...Morphine comes from poppies, cannabinoids from marijuana, and LSD from mushrooms" - ha! Shows how much he knows. "Magic" mushrooms' active ingredient is psilocybin, whereas LSD is synthetic and most definitely does not come from mushrooms.

    And warning to all readers, not every incense contains frankincense, which is the source of the particular chemical this study treats. And watch out for synthetic frankincense incense, which will only contain an essential oil that smells like frankincense, therefore may not confer the psychoactive benefits. Go to your local metaphysical shop and buy some real frankincense.
  • sports bottles · 3 months ago
    warning to all readers, not every incense contains frankincense, which is the source of the particular chemical this study treats. And watch out for synthetic frankincense incense, which will only contain an essential oil that smells like frankincense.
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  • concubinemycologyst · 1 month ago
    you are all fucking retarded as an educated drug research agent i will have my two bits there is no lsd in mushrooms the active engredient in mushrooms is called psilosibin which is broken down to psilosin in your body then carried to the brain where it breaks the brain blood barrier and binds to the saratonin receptor. lsd however is a dirivative of ergot a fungus that grows on rye through chemical modification dr. albert hoffmen of sandos labratories developed lysergic acid diathelimide (LSD-25) which also binds to the saratonin receptor along with the dopamine receptor there sre no such substances in incence whatsoever even if there were it would not be active furthermore the psted comments tell more truths than this artical
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  • Leaflet Printing · 3 weeks ago
    We found that incensole acetate, a Boswellia resin constituent, when tested in mice lowers anxiety and causes antidepressive-like behavior
  • modeling jobs · 1 week ago
    To determine incense’s psychoactive effects, the researchers administered incensole acetate to mice. They found that the compound significantly affected areas in brain areas known to be involved in emotions as well as in nerve circuits that are affected by current anxiety and depression drugs.